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Subject: SPACE Digest V13 #234
SPACE Digest Volume 13 : Issue 234
Today's Topics:
Re: Terraforming, sun shield
Administrator to present George M. Low Trophy to Rockwell (Forwarded)
Re: Outgassing
Re: Why bother? (was Re: Terraforming, sun shield)
Re: URGENT: recent space trivia...Please help...
SPACE Digest V13 #215
Carina's Voyager and other Astronomy programs...
Re: WWN does it again!
Re: Space profits
Re: Eclipse
Administrivia:
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Environmental concerns may be real enough, when we get into space. But try
and remember that most of the environmental concerns of real import have little
relation to the ones that might bother us in the future. THe current fears
about "Space Rape" seem to be a reaction to the injustices our white ancestors
visitied upon our non-white ancestors, or the very real damage we are doing to
the ecosphere (gaia). But there are't any cultures out there (that we've seen)
In the immortal words of a famous space-activist:
"Space is much different than a continent.
There is somewhat more than a lot of it."
On Venus, any life that we might actually look for would be destroyed by
the intense heat alone! Carbon does not bond well at 900F, and, there is no
liquid water. What kind of life would we be talking about? Would we think to
look for it? What test would you use? What chemicals are involved?
The actual environmental concerns will probably be more like: "your damn fusion
products keep gumming up the intake on my ramjet". Or perhaps, not too long
from now: "The giant solar grids take all the romance out of moonilght dances."
For some scientist to get bent because industrial processes are messing up the
'pristine' nature of the unspoiled landscape on Venus is to completely miss the
fact that the industrial processes paid his fare there in the first palce!
Perhaps Octavia Butler's point should be made: Wouldn't it be better to spend
our agressiveness taming (or ruining, by some views) Venus (or some other alien
planet) than killing this one? Or Each other?
But, All in all, I agree with Henry. Why get right back into another gravity
well? Keep the industrial processes in space, where, like the sewage on the
Nile, the Solar wind can just wash all that gunk away. (Sorry about all you
chumps living in the Asteroids.) :-)
Tommy Mac
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Date: 6 Mar 91 00:10:07 GMT
From: hsdndev!dartvax!wings.dartmouth.edu!ack@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Andy J. Williams)
Subject: Carina's Voyager and other Astronomy programs...
4 or so months back, I bought a copy of Carina's Voyager for the Macintosh.
It is, simply put, wonderful. It lets you view the sky from any location
within 100 A.U.s of the sun, any point on the earth (down to lat/long minutes),
at any time (even outside epoch 2000AD). It can track planets and other
motion from any point for any length of time. It also can do ephemerises (sp?)
and conjunction searches.
(Call that a mini-review if you will).
Now, the question I have is this: At work I have, next to my Macintosh IIsi,
an IBM PS/2 model 50. Well, I was wondering what kind of programs exist
for the IBM out there that are comparable to Voyager? PD/Shareware would
be very nice, but I am not against buying something that gets rave reviews.
Please eMail to me and I will post a summary, if I get enough to warrant
one.
Thanks!
-Andy
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Date: 5 Mar 91 17:17:43 GMT
From: pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!noose.ecn.purdue.edu!mentor.cc.purdue.edu!mace.cc.purdue.edu!dil@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Perry G Ramsey)
Subject: Re: WWN does it again!
In article <1991Mar4.141033.21332@merrimack.edu>, yetmank@merrimack.edu writes:
> In article <1991Mar3.183915.10877@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, jabishop@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jonathan A Bishop) writes:
> >
> > Yes, folks, the Weekly World News, the people who brought you the hidden
> > Challenger transcripts, have done it again! They have conclusively
> > that the moon landing was a hoax, and they have sidebars to prove it!
>
> Only on the moon could a man hit a golf ball as far as Alan Sheppard did. So
> somewhere in California, someone built an anti-gravity chamber at least 500
> yards long so the ball could travel that far.
Nah, he just used one of those super-duper golf balls that you always see
advertised.
Of course the famous Apollo 15 trick of dropping the feather and the
hammer at the same time was just a special effect, too.
You see, they both were on thin strings (very easy to hide against
the black set backdrop), and when they were released, someone at
the top of the set (just out of camera view) made sure that the
strings fed at the same rate. Presto! A falcon feather and a hammer
seem to fall at the same rate, even though the whole thing is on a back
lot at Universal Studios.
You spaceniks are sooooo gullible.
1e5:-)
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